Which is the better Micro Hi-fi out of these two?

Look, I can't decide. Both have all the features I need and are similarly priced. I'm leaning towards the Pioneer system because it seems to offer more, for a little extra money. Additionally has good customer reviews. But I also really like the Panasonic and have had great panasonic separates which still work today 15 years later! My priority over everything is sound quality, I have other speakers I can use instead of the supplied.

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Added (1). Pioneer speakers look like cheap rubbish

Added (2). Why do you have to use designated speakers? They're just propriety 2-way stereo speakers, nothing special about them in that regard, surely?

Added (3). The Panasonic doesn't have a 3.5mm headphones port on the front, which sounds petty but really is an issue for me. I like to lie on my sofa late and listen to music

I would go the Panasonic. More than likely better quality all round.

Pioneer in my opinion has been rubbish for years. If the speakers look cheap, they probably are.

Manufacturers always trade off quality for features. Unless the Pioneer has a feature you just Can't live without, avoid it.

I recommend going into a shop which stocks both and compare the sound quality, take in a CD to play. I work for the company which is selling the Pioneer system via Amazon and have listened to both Hi-Fi's at work. In my opinion, the Panasonic has slightly more bass than the Pioneer, but also the treble is very bright; perhaps too prominent for my personal tastes. The Pioneer has a more natural sound in my opinion. With both of these units, you have to use the speakers which come with the Hi-Fi.

Denon and Yamaha do Micro Hi-Fi systems that just sell the Hi-Fi without the speakers. With these you can either use the speakers that you own already (as long as the impedance is compatible), or buy speakers. This is an example. With the matching SCF109 speakers, the sound is a lot more rich and detailed than both Pioneer and Panasonic. The Denon doesn't have an iPod Dock, but it can play and charge an iPod through the USB connector.

http://www.hughesdirect.co.uk/hi-fi/hifi-systems/den-rcdm39dab-black/product

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