When will I get my iPhone 5? - 4

I pre-ordered the iPhone 5 yesterday, September 19th, from the Verizon store (the worker did it for me) The Verizon website is not working well so it won't let me check my order status.

The guy at the store told me the website said October 5th, and then he told me in reality its gonna be about 2-3 days earlier, so like October 2-3. But, do you know any other ways to track my order? Any predictions on when its coming? (since I know some people who already have it) Thank you.

I ordered straight thru apple for AT&T and apple is also telling me October 5th, so I would prob plan on that date.

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How do people already have it? It releases tomorrow! If you have an order number and know who's shipping it you should be able to enter it in to their database and track it from there, but seriously no one should have it yet.

I order a iPhone 5 today when will I get it in the mail